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Greetings and salutations, welcome to this follow-up video about nonsense. I’m glad you’re here! If you expand this little text thingy, you’ll find some links to some other things. Like the things that I talk about and reference in the above video thing.

Let’s start with what should have brought you here. If you somehow got here first, rather than seeing the main channel video, use your pointing device to select this hyperlink:

This link, if you dare to click it, will take you to the video from years gone by that was the foundation for this very stroll through the park of logic. Please note that this is not for the faint of heart. It is recommended that you consult your doctor before continuing.

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juhs 10 18/12/2021 - 6:00 Chiều

Anyone who has ever used these heaters mentioned know that you are exactly 100% correct. There are many small minded and dumb people in this world and I say let them have their terrible oil heaters

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CaseyRedDragon 18/12/2021 - 6:00 Chiều

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3pE_mDwCpk Good video from EEVblog explaining this in detail.

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65bug519 18/12/2021 - 6:00 Chiều

Just to put another hole in this boat, the oil filled heaters put out 1500 watts until it heats up and then an internal high temp switch cuts off one of the three 500 watt elements in it because the oil will boil and and explode the heater if 1500 watts stays on so when the thermostat is on it only puts out 750 watts and then the thermostat shuts off so the hourly average output is much lower. Check it out over at Matthias Wandel's y t channel.

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Matt Woodling 18/12/2021 - 6:00 Chiều

I don't get the concept of a heater that's fanless unless it's got some other way of moving the air near it just as quickly. I do like the idea of the large room heater being safer because the heating elements in it are completely contained in fluid. But why not put a fan on the large room heater to get air moving past it and move the heat away from it quicker so the thermostat doesn't shut it down?

Someone else here had the idea of putting a fan behind the oil radiator heater to get room air moving past it. I think that's an excellent idea in is probably the best solution of any except for the non-existent oil radiator heater that has a fan doing the same thing.

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Hank Kline 18/12/2021 - 6:00 Chiều

As an electrician I was asked by a kindly woman how she could reduce her electric bill. (She had resistive electric furnace) she told me she had reduced her light bulbs to 15w and it had not changed her bill. ( pre-LED times) I told her that the previous 60w lamps were putting out 188 BTUs
of heat, and the 15w lamps were putting out only 47 BTUs. This means her electric furnace had to run a tiny bit longer to make up for the heat that the lights weren't producing. Net savings either way 0%. Same KWH either way produces the same heat.

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Rich Tomlinson 18/12/2021 - 6:00 Chiều

I remember when Bob Vila was the spokesperson for the Eden pure heater and it just made me so frustrated with all the lies about that super expensive heater that was only as efficient at creating heat as every electric process on the planet.

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Garrett Malone 18/12/2021 - 6:00 Chiều

Excellent comparrison.Oil filled is ok if you want to wait hours for it to heat up! Thanks

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Tony Bright 18/12/2021 - 6:00 Chiều

Semantics – you are applying the adjective to the room. (Fair) The use the adjective to describe the heater. One is a room heater, size small. The other is a room heater, size large. 🙂

Glad I could help, LOL.

Anyway, thanks again, and I will resist the urge to go watch the video you don't want us to watch.

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Knight Spartan 18/12/2021 - 6:00 Chiều

20:17 i thought you said "two samurais"

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Al Hom 18/12/2021 - 6:00 Chiều

1500 watts is how much electrical power it draw you look for how much BTU it put out

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Ken Matthews 18/12/2021 - 6:00 Chiều

I wish i had seen this video last year. I had an old space heater from my old RV so i bought a new ceramic heater thinking it would be better. I ran them separately while winter camping in my RV and there was no difference. I chose the older one because it spun 180 degrees. Thanks for the lesson.

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Rebecca Edwards 18/12/2021 - 6:00 Chiều

Just lived the space heater life for 3 weeks, your past video saved me a ton of $$$$$. I thought your video was great, people don't like to hear they have been ripped off. I had an oil handy and it was nice to have the heat without the noise.

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Gmcalabr 18/12/2021 - 6:00 Chiều

As an engineer, you are 100% correct. Those comments and those heater ads are absolutely aggravating.

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Dr. Love 18/12/2021 - 6:00 Chiều

is it 1500w if its not turned on?

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Kevin Cooke 18/12/2021 - 6:00 Chiều

Since you and your critics didn’t agree to the ground rules prior to your conducting your experiment, they just may scream at you from their perceived position. It unfortunately is what people do when they can’t think beyond their own experiences or beliefs. You didn’t misrepresent what you found. Unfortunately today haters and critics are more vocal, which doesn’t make them right, they only think it does.

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Sherman Hofacker 18/12/2021 - 6:00 Chiều

The oil filled heater makes the manufacturer more money, therefore they are better!

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Jonathan Sparacio 18/12/2021 - 6:00 Chiều

Why are you asking us? You should have compared the two heaters yourself instead of using the oil filled crap that don't do anything unless they are on constantly.

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Frederick Brincat 18/12/2021 - 6:00 Chiều

All of this is quite simple to understand, and you are doing a fantastic job with explaining it. But you are having a hard time trying to explain something simple to people who will never understand, BECAUSE THEY DO NOT WANT TO, no matter how hard you try , how descriptive you become, and how many times you take a deep breath of frustration. I pitty you for trying to dress up the pigs in silk clothes.

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Know One 18/12/2021 - 6:00 Chiều

you rock…..the commenters Blow

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Jeff N. 18/12/2021 - 6:00 Chiều

Rambling, even for you. Ouch, sorry. However… if you consider the little heater a "spot heater," pointed an an individual (or there legs, or placed under a desk), then the object that the heater is pointed to, in the case of a person, is likely to be warmed without the rest of the room being warmed. Especially when the heater is placed under a desk, the warm air it produces is mostly trapped under that desk and the rest of the room warms rather slowly, if to any great extent at all. The underside of the desktop is going to get toasty warm, however. My two cents.

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Proton Neutron 18/12/2021 - 6:00 Chiều

the fan in the smaller heater spread the energy more evenly and thus the temp measuring device was effected by that. The oil heaters energy was hangin 'round the ceiling more.

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jonathan preziose 18/12/2021 - 6:00 Chiều

Ask urself how can you cool a room with just a fan? Well the opposite is true as well. Maybe that riddle will help u.

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jonathan preziose 18/12/2021 - 6:00 Chiều

Your argument now is that the oil heat limit it's self is omg ignorant. Once again that isn't how heat works, it takes time or energy to transfer heat. An oil Heater trades time for longer lasting heat or cheaper heat. The misleading is how the public understands heat

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jonathan preziose 18/12/2021 - 6:00 Chiều

You recently done a video about heat pumps, this is something you really just don't understand but if you look into the different types of air-conditioned areas and used as heat pumps you can see what makes the difference in sizes between head units. Heat is a lot more complicated and you are being ignorant maybe both are being ignorant. Heat is not just energy it's also not losing heat this is by air-conditioners are 60000 btu while equivalent in heat is 120000 btu so u need double the heat transfer to heat a room actually need less heat transfer to cool a room but yet it's more expensive to cool a room then heat it. Just understand heating is a lot more complicated and electronic heat is dumbest way anyways.

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jonathan preziose 18/12/2021 - 6:00 Chiều

You still don't understand when ppl are trying to tell you and u don't understand it iam not trying to mean just study British thermal units and you better understand. U guys are just talking over eachother

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jonathan preziose 18/12/2021 - 6:00 Chiều

The reason why you don't understand the difference is because it is different types of heat. They will take longer to heat a room but keep the room hotter for longer. And for cheaper. It's complicated it's not just about wattage

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spicy beans 18/12/2021 - 6:00 Chiều

Lol, I think you're assuming the problem is you. If your comments have changed it's because your audience has changed. You're great but even you can't change the IQ of the masses or the lack of critical thinking skills out there. If only…..

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thanh thuan nguyen 18/12/2021 - 6:00 Chiều

Heater not just turn on, make a room at a right temperature and turn off
Depends on how big the room it needs to run most of the time to combat heat leaking
The small one will soon burn out if it need working all day

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Ross Marsden 18/12/2021 - 6:00 Chiều

Is there a Bloopers reel from the making of this video?

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RedArmada 18/12/2021 - 6:00 Chiều

Dude is all into his feelings. This video is no real improvement over the original. Usually I'm driven nuts by all the abrupt cuts on his videos. Careful what you wish for.

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C K 18/12/2021 - 6:00 Chiều

Ahhh but there are ALWAYS losses! Nothing is ever 100% efficient (that I can think of) electricity goes back to a transformer (heat loss) which goes back to a sub station (heat loss) which goes back to a power plants turbine (not all steam converted to 3600 rpm of motion so now steam needs to be cooled by river water to condense the steam back to water to pump that water back to the boiler and reuse because its expensive water you dont want to get rid of) driven by steam produced in an 80% efficient 20 story tall giant furnace! So really either you are 80% efficient at your house or at the power plant. Dirty your neighborhood or the neighborhood where the power plant is. Unless that is your neighborhood then guess doesnt matter. Now I just succeeded in making an unrelated comment like people in the other video 👹 I understand what you are saying and agree, I just couldn't resist!

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Brian Jaress 18/12/2021 - 6:00 Chiều

Just a brainstorm thought, but maybe they deliberately label heaters that heat up gradually as "large room" and heaters that heat up quickly as "small room" because people don't like it (and blame the heater) when you can notice a big temperature difference near the heater vs other parts of the room. Heat a large room slowly, and people think, "Well, it takes a while because it's heating the whole room." Heat part of a room quickly then let the heat spread to the rest of the room, and people think, "This heater can't handle my big room." 🤷

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